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The Australian Armour Web Site

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

(If you want peace, prepare for war) Vegetius (AD fourth century)







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I have tried to make sure that all the information that I add to the page will be correct by talking to other people who are knowledgeable about the subject. This will not stop the odd error from creeping in but with your help these can be put right, so please inform me if you know of anything that I have got wrong, or any additional information you may have. I will have to say at this time that this is not a complete reference page but just the ones that I can find sufficient information to make them worth while.

There are many of the more common vehicles that I did not have pictures of, that were in service with the Australian army. I am trying to rectify this by searching through as many references that I can find. The thing is to make sure that they are Australian and not British in the same theater. Take the Desert campaign for example there are loads of photos of armour, but as the Australians used the same marking system that the British did it comes down to research as to which is which. Some of these pages have quite a few photographs on them so be prepared for some long down loads. I have tried to keep them as small as possible by splitting the pages up so please be patient.

Latest news.

I have started the M1A1 Abrams page. So far it is just general information but, photos will be added as soon as they become available.

The Australain's are using the ASLAV in Iraq. They have not changed its camouflage for desert conditions in the photos that I have seen.

What's new.

I am continuing this site with vehicles of post war Australia. For example the Saracen, Centurion, Leopard etc. If anyone has any photos or information, I would be grateful if they could Email me and let me know.


My name is Steven Guy and live in the UK I am a member of MAFVA (miniature Armoured Fighting Vehicle Association.), and an associate member of the Armour Modellers Association of Australia, who have been very helpful in answering my questions on Australian armour especial thanks must go to Gary Zimmer in this respect. Another person who has helped me enormously with photos of Australian tanks is Richard Cousse. I could not have achieved this site with out input from other people am indebted to any one who has helped me. I build models of not only Australian vehicles but what ever takes my fancy at the time. Finnish vehicles are another favourite of mine.

Role of Honour.

People who have helped me with this web site are.

Gary Zimmer, Richard Cousse, John Loughman, Dave Edwards, Michael Tapner, Mario Biagi, Al Bowie, Bob Moseley and Shane Lovell, John Stanford .

E-mail me with any additional information you may have (credit will be given to anyone who helps). I am always willing to discuss the vehicles on this site. I will reply to all Email sent to me, but, this is not a full time job so a few days may pass before the reply is sent.

Military Museums in London

Before saying anything about military museums, let's talk a little about why they are needed and what is the reason for having them. We have war museums so we can remember and be reminded of the terrible things that happened, but also to learn things out of them. Other people find it amusing, because it is also history and can show something from the late past.

People are the reason for having them, because they start wars and wars make the military and war museums even possible. Wars are of course something terrible, but keep in mind that there must be at least two sides, of which one is almost always a good one, protecting itself from the one who attacks. That makes museums the houses of good causes and monuments of surviving tragic happenings.

The military and war museums of Great Britain

Military museums don't only show you guns, they often show you the whole history as it was and every aspect of the events that lead to a war and the things that happened throughout the war. In case you are interested in that, especially the First and Second World War, that the right place in Great Britain, for you to be, would be the Imperial War Museum in London. In case you decide to visit it and you go on your own, take an escort Paris from with you, you will see why it is a good idea. But let's get back to the museum. The Imperial War Museum, or shortly known as IWM, was founded in 1917 and is today a group of five museums, three of them are located in London. Knowing that is was founded in 1917, you can realize that it was there during the whole Second World War and was able to collect and document all the things that happened in real time and show us today an incredibly detailed story of the whole war but especially the part that Commonwealth played in it. They also documented some moves Australia did, especially the two wars it fought during the WW2. One of those is, of course, against Germany, on the side with the whole Commonwealth's war effort and the other one was on the side of the United States and Britain against Japan. It is interesting to see all the documents, maps, guns and uniforms and other army artifacts they have.

But if you want to see only guns and military equipment but also armour and weapons used since 600 AD, that you will need to visit the Royal Armouries in Leeds. The entrance is free and you can stay there the whole day, because their collection is incredible and huge. But the best thing about it is yet to come: it has special galleries for oriental armour, hunting, tournaments and self defense and even a crossbow range and an adventure zone that will make your thirst for history and war artifacts settled.

Beside these two there are more than 20 other war and military museums in London, out of those the best would be: the Royal Air Force Museum, National Army Museum, Winston Churchill's Britain At War Experience and Battle of Britain Bunker.